BandWidth Providers Whose the best also advice needed

[rabbit85]

[andy68]

hmmmmm interesting will look into this though as it would seem that been close is of paramount importance...
I would intend to use similiar hardware and have a same spare set of a machine so it is fault tolerant in ways..

Does everyone use multihomed connectivity or is single provider connectivity ok??

Reason ask is that there are only 1-2 multihomed connectivity networks in my area (scotland) and they are very expensive whereas there is a large difference between multihomed prices and non multihomed prices...

[andy68]

from the bandwidth providors you listed it looks like your in europe.
My advice is that in europe the best thing for colocation'ers is to go with a carrier neutral facility because there are many ISPs with weird connections, you never know what might be wrong and where and who's to blaim.
I remember before ~1998 most ISPs in israel only had connectivity to US and not Europe.

[andy68]

PSI net and Global Crossing both have deals offering bandwidth and PSI net even does colo in scotland/europe.

[andy68]

Forgive my ignorance Noam but "colocation'ers is to go with a carrier neutral facility " can you explain exactly what you mean by carrier neutral ? Are sprint any good ?

I see the possible issues associated with multihomed thanks for the advice.. I believe that one is better off investing in the hardware starting out even though it costs a lot i believe it to be a necessary up front cost as here in europe we dont get the same deals you chaps do over in the states. Servers are charged expensively and i think the business model works better with owning the machine . It is a lot of upfront cost but perhaps i need to get more finance together.

How much cash did you chaps need to start out and what type of a config did you start out with?

[andy68]

Yeah i see what u mean by carrier neutral now. Managing routers etc is not something id be prepared to do starting out (start small think big).. But yes in the long term it clearly is the way to go.

How much did it cost you guys in terms of $ to get started up in the hosting business?

[spoon84713]

If you know what you are doing with Unix/Windows and the basic TCP/IP protocols (smtp, http, dns) it doesnt cost too much, if you need someone to show you how to do things it can get pricey. Or you could have someone write you some PHP scripts to help you manage everything.

-Drew

[andy68]

Here is what we're thinking about doing.

Keep our 3 DS3s as backups, then take an OC3 from columbus to chicago, hit the main NAP. Put a cisco 12000 right in the middle, and do a bunch of ethernet cross connects with 5-7 different bandwidth providers.

You'd be surprised how inexpensive an oc3 to chicago is.

-Drew

[spoon84713]

Why are you staying with ATM technology when Ethernet/GigEs are definately the wave of the future.

[andy68]

With Ryanair flying for 20 euro's from Glasgow to London... i think i would put my servers in the new HE.NET Colocation centre in London. cheap bandwidth, but very good pearing for europe, and also for the west of the usa.